Guestbook Posts through 2007
12/30/07 JEFF I JUST RECEIVED THIS FROM JACKIE SOPER.
SOMEWHERE 1956 to 1961) #48 with CHEVY V8, AND THE FIRST "BUG " IN THE AREA,
DON MOYER OWNER.
LAST WEEK I RECEIVED WORD ABOUT HIM IN FLORIDA, IN BAD HEALTH. I SENT YOU A
COPY OF WHAT I WROTE TO HIM.
Thank's , great pic.'s I was track champion at black rock W/ a slant 6 Bug two or 3 time's
Gill Frisbie owned it....# 2 great hearing from you folk's..keep it between the rail's.....Jackie
Mr Rip Sr
12/27/07 Happy Holidays from Peoria, IL. I just, today, found your website and it made a
huge impression! What lengths you fellows must have gone to get the information in it!
My father, Bob Reese, used to drive in the early '50's at Vernon, Morris, and Brookfield plus
some others I'm sure. I've not had any luck finding any clippings or pictures from his racing
days. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Keep up the good work!!
529 West Teton Dr.
Peoria, IL. 61614
12/27/07 Bill called me and we talked for quite a while. The results from his ct scan looked
good. It was just a year ago that it was touch and go for my old friend. Dave Conde
12/30/07 Dave - Pleased to hear that Bill Wimble is doing well, thanks for letting us know -
12/24/07 - Gene Heath is my great uncle, his father was Owen Heath, brother of Irving
Heath, my grandfather. Owen built the Kirkwood Speedway down by the river and they ran
sprint cars down there. Irving built Five Mile Point Speedway. Gene is a genius with any car.
He has had several toys over the years which have won multiple awards which he brought back
to life from the ground up. Some of you guys in the club would be well served to talk to him
about his history in both racing and in auto restoration. You never know what he might have in
his garage. It was always an adventure going over to his house and looking at his most recent
project. Gene built and maintained many winning race cars most notably the S/360 of Don
Diffendorf but many before and after. His "Hemi" was an innovative piece of equipment which
was seldom out powered during an era which included Dutch Hoag, Bill Stroshal, Jerry Hayes,
Mike Zopp, etc... If you get an opportunity to talk to him, do it. He is a most unassuming person
who is full of racing knowledge to a degree that would impress most any racing historian.
- Mal "BigDog" Harpell
12/30/07 Mal - Gene is next on list to visit, thanks for the info. - Jeff
12/20/07 Hi to all, Jackie Soper is really having a rough time both physically and mentally. As
many of you will remember he had a pacemaker/defibrillator implanted awhile back and the
surgery to have it done about did him in. After the surgery the pain was terrible and still is for
him if he moves wrong. The other problem is the years of smoking has caught up to him and
Jackie admits it (he quit a few years ago but the damn tobacco smoking has done its terrible job
on his heart and lungs). He can't do hardly anything because the oxygen isn't getting into his
system and he burns out with minimal exercise.
Recently he has been told that the pacemaker/defibrillator that he had implanted is defective
(see article below from NY Times yesterday). That will mean surgery to remove defective one
and put another one in its place. Dr. is afraid of the surgery because of Jackies condition, so as
of a couple of days ago he doesn't know what is going to happen.
As you know Jackie lives alone near Ocala, FL. He loves to talk about racing and is very up on
any topic that is in the news. If you could give him a call, send an e-mail or send a card it would
help so much with the depression he naturally is going through now. He is real tough just like
all the drivers from back years ago but it is a front somewhat for what he is going through both
physically and mentally. Jackie is aware I am sending out an e-mail on this subject to you folks.
Thanks for your help, Ford Easton
address: 5000 S.E. 183rd Ave. Rd., Ocklawaha, FL 32179
12/17/07 Jeff, Gene should have some very interesting stories. If I'm not mistaken, I think
Diff's first every stock car he drove was a car Gene built while in high school shop class. It
would be interesting to read about the different drivers he had driving for him when he had his
Hemi. I was very young at the time so I have no recollection of most of them. All the stories I
have are second hand from my father who worked on Gene's cars but anyone who had guys like
Bolia, Hayes, Coniam, Bentley, etc driving for him is bound to have stories!
Also, Gene's father owned the original Kirkwood Speedway (which is where the ball fields are
today next to the river) which ran sprint cars back in the 40's. He might have some interesting
stories about that place, too.
12/23/07 Jay - I'll make a point of getting up to see Gene this winter, thanks.
12/17/07 Hi, I know this might be a long shot but I have a witter carburetor and am trying to
find any information on it or know any who might. It has a top and bottom plate and a air filter
sandwiched in between and in the middle top it has small motor that spins and throws fuel. If
any help it would be great. Brian Shedrow
12/23/07 If anyone has any info for Brian you can e-mail him at: email@example.com
12/15/07 I was reading some of the postings from 06 and noticed a name that really hit home.
Buck Holiday if I remember right was a racer who raced at the speedway where I grew up. It
was callled FT Covington International Speedway in Ft Covington NY. I am looking for any
pictures from that speedway of Buck's car as well as any other. Especially the Yellow Falcon #
007 that ran there as well as the # 6 Pinto who was a regular there. I don't recall the names of
the drivers of these 2 cars. But others that drove there were Al ( Quick Change ) Pike, Garth La
Grow, Paul Shirley, Jean Guy Lagenesse, Howie Grant, and others if anyone could help me with
this I would appreciate it.
Jack Le Blanc
12/16/07 Jack, check out our links page, Catamount Speedway with Bill Labadouch may
have pictures that you are looking for. Thanks for your interest and happy holidays. - Jeff
My name is Jack LeBlanc, I am a big fan of the old days of stock car racing. I am originally from
a small town in Northern NY called Fort Covington, We had a high banked 1/2 mile dirt track
there up until around 1975 or so. I would like info on joining your club if possible. I am an
avid model car builder. I have just gotten back into it and like to build replicas of cars I have
seen race up there and also would like to build some of local racers. I am looking for any
pictures or programs of FT Covington speedway if you know anyone who might have them. I got
your website from Rick Parry and would really like to see some of the real stockers that have
been restored as well meet some people who truly know what real stock car racing was all
Thank You for your time
Jack Le Blanc
208 Tipperary Dr
Utica, NY 13502
12/9/07 HELLO JEFF. MY NAME IS BEN WILLIAMS. I AM STARTING A MODEL CAR PROJECT
THAT I HAVE WANTED TO DO FOR YEARS. I AM BUILDING MODELS OF THE LIMITED
SPORTSMAN CARS THAT RAN AT BOTH WEEDSPORT AND BREWERTON SPEEDWAYS IN 1976. I
POSTED A MESSAGE ON A MODEL CAR FORUM ASKING FOR HELP LOCATING SOME
REFERENCE PHOTOS OF THESE CARS. SOMEBODY RESPONDED AND SAID THAT YOU MAY BE
ABLE TO HELP ME. EITHER COLOR OR BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOS ARE FINE. ANYTHING IS
BETTER THAN NOTHING. BELOW IS A LIST OF CARS THAT I LACK PHOTOS OF AND ONES THAT
I DO HAVE ALREADY. ANY OTHERS THAT YOU COULD THINK OF BE GREAT. ALSO, I
ATTACHED A PHOTO OF THE TOMMY WILSON'S # P-13 MODEL THAT I HAVE BUILT ALREADY.
ANY HELP WITH THIS PROJECT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR ANY HELP THAT YOU CAN GIVE ME.
DENNY PLANCK - #77 YELLOW GREMLIN
DUANE DECKER - # "THE DEUCE" ORANGE COUPE
FRANK DOLL - #0 PURPLE PINTO
CHUBBY LEROUX - #88 PINTO (WHITE W/ RED NUMBERS??)
CHICO NOTO - #19 SILVER PINTO
PHOTOS LOCATED ALREADY ......
TOMMY WILSON - #P13 - WHITE COACH
FRAN KITCHEN - #46 - TEAL VEGA WAGON
BOB MRCREADIE - #9 FALCON
12/16/07 Ben can be reached via e-mail at: firstname.lastname@example.org - Jeff
12/9/07 Hi Jeff, I saw in this week's post a mention of Fran Kitchen. I used to watch him at
Morris in the 50s. When Utica/Rome opened in the 60s, he put a car together and the 1st night
out, nailed down the heat and feature, against Wimble, Charland and the rest of the gang. He
didn't run full time but managed to win another feature, later that season. He is a dear friend
of mine. He is in his early 70s now and is a very hard working fellow to say the least. He drives
tractor/trailer for Fred Burrows trucking (owned Dave Lape's #22) out of Whitesboro, N.Y. He
hauls 6 days a week if they have work and quite often brings me my blacktop out on the road.
He is a master at backing his trailer into the tightest quarters you could imagine. In the years
I've been paving, he's never gotten close to doing anything wrong. He lost his wife a couple years
ago.I guess he'll continue to haul until he dies. You'll never meet a nicer guy with a kinder
smile as Fran, aka,"Sparky" Kitchen. My 1st job,next spring,will be to pave the NYS thruway
from Herkimer to Little Falls. I'm sure the 1st day back, I'll hear him radio out to me when he
gets in range for instructions where I need him. Dave Conde
12/2/07 Jeff, Thanks so much for having those pictures of Gary Reddick posted, brought back
some real great memories. Being in Ontario Canada, we used to see Gary run the old Kingston
Speedway usually on Fridays and then would catch him at the old Watertown fairgrounds on
Saturday and Evans Mills on Sunday. Gary was always a top runner with the V3 and he was one
of the first racers I saw run a tube chassis with a Pinto body. Always had time to chat with the
kids after the racers and was a real nice guy.Well remember alot of those upstate racers, Neal
Tooley,Guy "Shorty" Robinson,Tom Boucher,Buck Holiday,Tony Blake,Fran Kitchen,Bob
Mccreadie - these guys running the limited always put on a great show.It was always good to
see guys like Gary run the big tracks down at Oswego and Fulton. I was just a kid in those days
and it was probably the best of racing eras.
Thanks again. Rick Beaubien - Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
12/9/07 Thank you Rick for your continued support and interest, Gary was overdue. - Jeff
12/2/07 WENT TO AN A.R.D.C. MIDGET SHOW IN THE EARLY SIXTIES AT THE ONTEORA
SPEEDWAY IN OLIVE BRIDGE N.Y. I REMEMBERED THE NAME SAMMY PACKARD. WHEN
WE WERE VISITING FLORIDA , ED ROBBINS INTRODUCED ME TO HIM, AT AN OLD
TIMERS MEET. HE HAD A FORD '60' MIDGET THERE. WE GOT TALKING ABOUT THE
CHARACTER OF EACH CAR. I REMEMBER BEING IN MIDDLETOWN, AND THINKING,
YOU COULD REMOVE THE NUMBERS, AND PRIME THE BODIES, LOOK AT THE CARS, AND
KNOW WHO THEY BELONGED TO, JUST BY THE WAY THEY WERE BUILT.REMEMBER
BUZZIE, WILL CAGLE, BOB ROSSEL CAME UP NORTH WITH GAS POWERED 327'S
AND RAN THE BUTT'S OFF THE GUY'S UP HERE, THAT WERE RUNNING INJECTED
396'S AND 427'S. I ASKED BOB MALZAHN, WHO RAN A 396, 4 BL., AND GAS,
WHY HE DIDN'T RUN INJECTION, "WHY WOULD I, I CAN'T GET THIS POWER ON THE
GROUND'. WE USED TO GO TO THE 'SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS, AND SOMETIMES A
RACE WOULD BREAK" HOW CAN YO RUN "HTE CAR OF THE FUTURE"??? IT
HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET!!!!!! DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I'M HAVIN FUN WITH
THIS STUFF. TODD WILHELM
11/25/07 Cool, cool, what can I say takes you back. Thanks - R. Robe
11/19/07 Updated News for the Modified Reunion:
After having a real good meeting with New Smyrna Speedway General Manager Terry Roberts,
we are yet another few steps closer to having everything in alignment.
All pre-registered Drivers and Vintage Car owners will receive a free grandstand pass for the
evenings race program, highlighted by the “Richie Evans Memorial 100” for the Nascar Tour-type
Modifieds. We will also be introducing our attending drivers to the fans during pre-race
activities, and a chance to meet your favorites and collect some autographs and pictures.
Vintage Car owners will also get some track time to get a few laps on the high-banked, and
recently repaved ½ mile speedway. There will be a special parking area for these cars, and you
will not have to reload between the reunion site and the speedway surface. Due to the lack of
push-trucks, I’m sorry to say that this portion will be limited to self-starting vehicles only. These
participants will also be introduced to the fans, along with the history behind these machines. I
guarantee that there will be a wide variety of racing vehicles from the past.
The concession stands will be opened early to accommodate our reunion guests with food and
drinks available. They will also be opening the grandstand gates earlier than normal, so that
our group will be able to attend the qualifying sessions for that evening’s races.
Make sure to bring your autograph books, cameras, diecast collectibles, scrapbooks, T-shirts, or
anything else you’d like to have these heroes of our sport sign for you.
This event will be on Friday, February 15th, 2008 at the New Smyrna Speedway, located on the
corner of Hwy. 44 and County Rd. 415 in Samsula, Florida. The show will be from 12:00 Noon
until 5:00 PM. Hauler parking will begin at 9:00 AM, with the racing program starting at 7:00 PM.
Please visit our web-site at www.modifiedreunion.homestead.com to pre-register, check the
latest roster, and please sign our guest book while you’re there. I’d love to hear the feedback
from all interested parties about our project. This is a first of its kind event in this area, and we
hope to make it an annual affair.
Hope to see you all here to join in on the fun and excitement that this promises to bring.
For reunion information, please call Jerry Binner at 407-702-3311
For speedway information, please call 386-427-4129
11/19/07 ED ROBBINS HOOKED ME UP WITH YOUR SITE. IT IS GREAT, I HAVE ALSO GIVEN
THE WEB SITE INFO. TO JIMMIE WOOD, HAROLD WOOD"S GRANDSON. E-MAILED ROBERT
BLACK WHO OWNED ONE OF WOODIES FAMOUS #24"S. ROBERT BUILT SEVERAL BOSS 302
SMALL BLOCKS THAT WON IN MIDDLETOWN. JERRY WILSON RAN ONE OF THE BLOCKS,
AND EDDIE DAVIS RAN ONE THAT WAS IN HIGHBE BROS. #97. WHEN WOODIE
RAN THE SIX CYLINDER FORD 300 HE BUILT THE MANIFOLD HIMSELF AND FITTED
IT WITH FOUR STROMBERG 97"S. ALGON BUILT AN INJECTOR SET UP FOR HIM BUT
IT WAS NO QUICKER THAN THE CARBS. DOUG TYLER BOUGHT THE CARB SET UP, AND
WON MANY TIMES AT ACCORD. JACK ZUIDEMA TOLD ME, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO
DRIVE ONE OF THESE THINGS IS, CLOSE YOUR EYES, STEP ON IT, COUNT TO 5,
TURN LEFT. IF YOU HIT THE WALL, NEXT TIME COUNT TO 4, AND TURN LEFT,
THAT DOESN"T HURT AS MUCH. I REALLY ENJOY THIS STUFF. THANKS, TODD WILHELM
11/25/07 Todd, I've heard guys like Ray Bunzy talk of the dust at Midstate and say that
"we just counted to ten and turned left." Apparently it worked, thanks for the kind words. -
11/16/07 Hi, My name is Doug Cushman. I live in St Catharines Ont., I first started to attend
dirt track racing at Stamford speedway Niagara Falls Ont.. In the early 1950's This was the
track before Merrittvile Speedway. We have also attended Merrittvile well over 50 years. Some
of the early drivers were Jerry Winger, Ray Stevens and Stan Friesen. Just wanted to drop you
this line to congratulate on your efforts re: stock car history. We do have to keep on telling our
experiences so these men will not be forgotten.
11/18/07 Thank you Doug, I agree wholeheartedly. - Jeff
11/14/07 WORKED WITH HAROLD WOOD ON LIMITED SPORTSMANS IN MIDDLETOWN. WE
WON 37 FEATURE EVENTS IN THE SIXTIES. RACED WITH EDDIE DAVIS, STAN SHERMAN,
JACK ZUIDEMA, JERRY WILSON, RICH EURICH. GREAT TO SEE DAVID REUTIMANN
WON IN BUSCH. I REMEMBER BUZZIE TOLD ME, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHY YOU RUN
GOOD SOMETIMES, YOU SURE WON'T KNOW WHY YOU DON'T RUN GOOD THE REST OF
THE TIME. TODD WILHELM 845-647-5377, LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF.
11/18/07 In reviewing the book 'The Hard Clay in Orange County', Harold Wood was indeed
hot stuff in the Limited Sportman class, winning 8 times in '67 (including the Eastern
States Limited feature) and 7 more times in '68 as well as the track championship. Thanks
for your interest Todd. - Jeff
11/7/07 To: Jeff Ackerman
Thanks very much for the info on your crank thats just what I was looking for.
PS. Attached is an article of a fella cutting down a crank at Ansen's.
11/11/07 Darin's contributed article can be found under 'Flat Tech' - 'Crankshafts', along
with my cutdown crank notes for those brave souls attempting to lose weight..
11/7/07 For Immediate Release
Contact: Ron Hedger 518-885-7481
NYSSCA HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES A "WHO’S WHO" OF STOCK CAR RACING
Albany, NY Two fan-favorite dirt track stars, an outstanding asphalt racer and fabricator, a five
decade NASCAR modified owner and a highly respected journalist will comprise the New York
State Stock Car Association’s Hall of Fame inductees for 2008.
Florida’s Buzzie Reutimann, unknown when he came north with his #00 coupe, was soon
winning races from Reading, PA to Middletown, NY. He became a leading driver in the famed All-
Star League as well, but is probably best known for winning the very first of Glenn Donnelly’s
fall DIRT classics on the Syracuse Mile, known today as the Rite Aid 200.
Reutimann backed up his 1972 Syracuse win over NASCAR star Jerry Cook by edging Tommy
Corellis in ’73. The best he could do after that was second to Gary Balough’s Batmobile in 1980,
often considered a "first in class" performance, but he was always in contention. Still active in
the Florida version of IMCA modifieds, Reutimann also follows the NASCAR Nextel Cup and
Busch series, assisting son David, a popular Toyota driver.
Another Syracuse winner, 1986 champion "Barefoot Bob" McCreadie, enters the NYSSCA Hall of
Fame with an amazing 507 documented feature wins at some 54 speedways from Canada to
Australia. New York’s Canandaigua Speedway tops the list at 99, followed by Brewerton and
Weedsport, where he claimed 84 and 70 wins, respectively.
McCreadie’s 47 wins in 1994 eclipsed the career records of most of his contemporaries, but he
also had eight other seasons where he topped the 25-win mark. And whether he won or not,
McCreadie always had the crowd with him, representing the "little guys" of the world against
Seriously injured when a car hit his motorcycle in a parking lot, McCreadie now spends his
time following the career of son Tim, 2006 WoO Late Model champion and currently a NASCAR
development driver with Richard Childress Racing.
Asphalt superstar Maynard Troyer became a household name in short track racing the old
fashioned way, by winning races everywhere he went. But his second career, fabricating the
"factory built" asphalt modifieds and radical Troyer Mud Busses that made Danny and Alan
Johnson famous, made his name familiar to succeeding generations as well.
A steady winner at Spencer, Fulton, Lancaster, Shangri-La, Oswego and elsewhere, Troyer’s
Ford powered Falcons and Pintos were always immaculate and on the cutting edge technically.
To look at just three of the many tracks where he was a major force, Troyer won four
championships at Lancaster, had six wins as an outsider at Stafford Springs, including three
consecutive Spring Sizzlers (‘77-‘79) and won the ’76 and ‘77 Race of Champions on the
treacherous Trenton, NJ Speedway.
Troyer is also remembered for riding out a horrendous series of flips at the 1970 Daytona 500,
the low point of his 14 event Winston Cup career. His Troyer chassis business, today under the
guidance of Billy Colton, remains among the elite of fabrication shops and has put countless
drivers into Victory Lane.
Art Barry’s five-decade career as a NASCAR modified owner and fabricator has seen him build
scores of asphalt cars for himself and others. He first came to the forefront of the New York
racing scene at Albany-Saratoga, Airborne Park and Utica-Rome with a winning coupe driven by
Bobby Santos, grandfather of current NASCAR up and comer Bobby Santos 3rd.
Since that time, his own cars have been wheeled by such notables as Leo Cleary, Eddie Flemke,
Brett Bodine, George Summers, Jeff Fuller, Greg Sacks, his son, Ken and Mike Stefanik, with
whom he won the NASCAR national championship in 2000 and 2001. A tireless worker, Barry is
also known for helping others perfect their car’s handling, whether or not they were customers
of his Spearpoint Auto fabrication business.
The late Les Deuel was a "writer’s writer" who covered the local scene for both the Albany
Times-Union and the racing trade papers. He was also among the first to host a radio show
devoted totally to regional short track racing.
He knew everybody in the pits and at one time or another, wrote about most of them. Deuel
especially loved the "characters" of racing. He told readers about the larger-than-life men who
drove the snarling modifieds of the day, relating their foibles as well as their accomplishments,
in the process attracting readers to area speedways to watch them perform.
The newest NYSSCA Hall of Fame members will be inducted at the association’s annual awards
banquet, set for Saturday, January 19th at the Polish Community Center on Washington Avenue
Extension in Albany. The next day they will be introduced to the public at the Saratoga
Automobile Museum, located on the Avenue of the Pines in the Saratoga Spa State Park. The
event is set for 11 am in the Racing in New York gallery, site of the permanent NYSSCA Hall of
NYSSCA Hall of Fame members Ernie Marshall and Bob Hackel are set to appear at the
museum prior to the January 20th event, with Marshall speaking on December 1st and Hackel
on January 6th. Both will have their race cars on hand for the 1 pm events.
10/29/07 Hello, Jeff...... It's Bill Tierson calling, I saw some old photos on your site from Perry
speedway. I have found an old racer from 1966, that raced there. I saw the photos were
submitted by Ron Lincoln. Is he someone still around that I could contact to see if he had any
photos of my car? The car is a 1940 ford #10x, red, It's in not to bad a shape, except the frame is
really shot. It was driven by Ken Heywood. Thanks for any help. Bill
11/4/07 Anyone with info for Bill can contact him at email@example.com
10/28/07 A little bit of the "rest of the story"
The 5 7/8........ My mom grew up in Mooers NY about 3-5 East of Mooers Forks. Charlie
Trombley and Dick Nephew resided in Mooers Forks.
Around 1958-1959 I remember one Saturday afternoon playing out side. I saw this brightly
painted car being towed by another car or perhaps truck.
I was mesmerized by what I saw. It may have been the 5 7/8 or Dick Nephews car. My
grandparents told me that the car was going to the stock car races in Plattsburg. I of course
pleaded to go but never did.
The first race I attended was up to FMP. I was hooked.
I used to pester my parents to go to FMP. They would take me once in a while. Being 14-15 at
the time, a friend and I would go over to Court St and hitch hike to FMP. We would cop a ride
with some racer to get to the Binghamton Court house on the return trip.
Boy how times have changed from the tow bars to the enclosed trailers........ I remember a few
times we even rode back in the car. I liked it better then now.
10/16/07 Got out of the service in 55, started racing at Lafayette spdwy, # 99, won rookie of the
year 'Hub Fan Club" (closed) then on to Brookfield spdwy # 99 then in the Lynn Dyer # 29, some
B29 of Johnny Dyers coupe at Brookfield then Weedsport , some Brewerton, a few times at the
NYS fair grounds, ran the 73 of my bros Dave at Brewerton for a year 1966 while he was
recouperating from a hit in the wall at the track. I met a lot of people in my race days and will
never forget the memories, at the same time one could race with these guys at all different
tracks and never talk to one another, guess the competive nature stayed with one as the years
went by, when I look back at the pix of some of these guys I cant help but think, hell we could
have gone out and had a beer together and had a ball. Out of all the tracks I think the best
times were racing with Bernie Miller, Pepper Eastman, Al (suicide ) Sanders with the Hole-y
Roller # 46 plus a lot of others at Brookfield, I have to agree with the article I read on Sanders
as bad as it was racing there with the fog + a lot of other problems it was a lot of fun. I'd like to
talk to Sanders abut the night he mentions winning the championship race at Brookfield ,
Bernie Miller Blows a Tire with 5 laps to go, I break water hose with 2 laps to go, he wins, how
about the time he"s trying to sneak into the fair feature by hiding between 3&4, see the things
we could be having a beer & chatting about, never talked to him, didnt realize he would look
like the kind of guy I would have liked to have know better along with some of the other guys,
my Dad Ernie Harp was pit steward at Lafayette and knew a lot of the guys better than I ever
would have, he's the one that told me about ol Suicide at the fair race, guess he was watching
for him. We had a good laugh. It sure is great of your club to keep up with the older times of
racing, there is a ton of pictures out there, Gater news has bunches and it has been mentioned
in the past " why do they want to sit on them" ???, guess I got carried away writing this, it was
good times, NORMAN HARP P.S. If anyone ever remembers racing with me or just wants to talk
or E back and forth feel free to pass on my info O.K.
10/21/07 Thanks for the great pictures and information Norm, we appreciate it, very
interesting. Anyone who wants to contact Norm can do so by e-mailing: winner@dslextreme.
10/16/07 These are the pix (5) I wrote to you about, not much but
something,, AAHHH those were the days, I read an article about suicide Sanders
winning at Brookfield, yeh sure, Bernie Miller blows a tire I broke a water
hose Sanders running third wins the race in his Hole-y car, the black coupe,
note the view at the Lafayette track, built on the side of a hill, dont go
off the back stretch.- what fun it was. Let me know if you received these
ok plus send me the web site that originally got to get into the link,
can't remember what I had typed in to start with (getting old) NORM HARP
10/15/07 Names Norm Harp, I used to race upstate NY, Lafayette, Weedsport, Brewerton,
Brookfield. Back in the 50s, I have a few pix to send in if your interested, let me know ok. It
took me most of the day reading and going thru your site, GOOD JOB ., please reply. Norman
10/9/07 I'm trying to spread the word about our upcoming Reunion event. Please review my
"press release", and see if there's a way to inform your members and fans about this event. I
Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to provide... Jerry Binner, 407-702-3311 or
firstname.lastname@example.org web-site is modifiedreunion.homestead.com
Modified Racers Reunion
We are pleased to announce Florida ’s first of its kind event to honor the pioneers of Modified
racing. We are hosting a Northeast Modified drivers Reunion, to be held at New Smyrna
Speedway on Friday, February 15th. 2008. This is the date of the annual Richie Evans Memorial
100, during Speedweeks. It will be an afternoon event, so as not to conflict with the racing
programs being held at New Smyrna Speedway , Volusia Speedway Park and Daytona
International Speedway .
Initial response has been tremendous, with participation by both Asphalt and Dirt racers. In
only one month of preparations, we have received entries from Dutch Hoag, Bugs Stevens, Bill
Wimble, Pete Hamilton, Doug Heveron, and dozens more.
There will also be an Antique/Vintage racecar display, with many types of cars entered. There
will be Sprints, Midgets, Modifieds, Stock Cars, and Supermodifieds coming. The owners of
these cars would love to share the history of these machines and the stories behind them.
Some other exciting things planned include a Live radio broadcast by RealRacinUSA, a Slot Car
Speedway featuring Coupe-bodied cars, and an original Richie Evans Pinto which will also be
pacing the field for the 100 lap feature.
Some fans and drivers are bringing scrapbooks, old photos, and other memorabilia which should
bring back some memories, and stir up an old story or two. There will also be a Souvenir
Program available to collect autographs from your heroes from days gone by.
This event is free to all that are interested in attending. It is being hosted by lifelong fans, as a
way to honor those drivers who have shaped our lives into being the racing fanatics that we are.
We don’t care if you’ve won a hundred Features, or never won a Heat race, you’re all equally
important to the race fans. Without you as drivers, we wouldn’t be fans in the first place. We
want to give all of them our personal Thanks!
Please visit our web-site for all details, updates, and current Drivers List. It is being updated
regularly, so check back often. It is also the place for drivers and cars to enter and be included
in our Souvenir Program. Make your plans now to attend, and we hope to see you all there in
February. If you’d like to enter, have any questions, or would like to be informed of the latest
news, please sign our guest book, or feel free to contact me personally.
Jerry Binner, 407-702-3311 or email@example.com or visit our reunion site at
10/7/07 Hi - I race a flathead circle track car in the northwest and was wondering if you could
tell me what you guys are doing for cooling? We are currently running a 304 ci stroker combo
and are having a bad heating problem, we also run a 3 3/4 x 3 3/8 engine and have problems
with it also. Any help would be greatly appreciated as we are kicking the 250 chevy's and 300
ford sixes butts, but running 25 laps of a 30 lap race doesn't quite get the job done!
10/7/07 Ron, many things to do to cool a flathead, most include slowing down the water so
that it has enough time in the radiator to cool. We use restrictors in the head outlets of
5/8" in diameter, trim every other fin off the water pumps, (this can also be accomplished
by using smaller pulley off the crank to drive the pumps) and of course, don't overtime the
engine and give it plenty of fuel. Check the plugs and ensure that they are burning with a
chocolate brown coloring, time it at 18 deg. full advance at 2500 Rpm. Ensure there are no
cracks in the block - Moroso ceramic block sealer has worked for us, if you have a good
radiator that will take it, then a higher rated pressure cap will help, 12 lbs. cap is much
better than 7, and a good working fan and shroud also is a big help. Of course, if you can
run methanol then you won't need the fan. Good flowing headers out in the air are a must,
and if you can get an oil cooler or your oil filters out in the air, that helps as well.
Everything you can do to keep these boilermakers cool helps. Best of luck to you, glad to
hear that the car is running competitively. - Jeff
10/5/07 Good afternoon to all across North America, This e-mail goes to 50s stock car racing
followers in 15 States and four Provinces in Canada
A number of you have contacted me requesting the date for the 2008 North luncheon so you can
plan vacations with your families and or friends and not miss the CLR luncheon as a few of you
did this year and have told me you don't want to miss one again. Please let other friends and
family members know of the date too that don't have internet access as you do. The luncheon
will be at Moonwinks that we all enjoy so much and are so good to work with plus really
appreciate our great group of people.
The date is Wedsday July 30 2008. You can't believe some of the things that are already going
on behind the scenes for your enjoyment and excitment at the 08 event. I am not at liberty to
share the things at this time, but trust me they are very exciting.
I am currently working on the CLR South 08 luncheon at BuddyFreddys in Plant City, FL. The
date is Wedsday January 23 2008 and info. for your reservations to be sent in will be going out
in December of this year. One thing I do know now is the per person price will be the same as
it has been the last two years.
10/1/2007 Jeff, Just wanted to thank you for that great pic of Pat O'Briens limited sportsman, I
watched that car run every Friday night at the old Kingston Speedway. Those were some great
racing days, some of the best out of southern Ontario and the great limited drivers out of
upstate NY. Guys like Tony Blake, Neil Tooley, "Shorty" Robinson, Gary Reddick, Wayne Leclair,
Bob McCreadie always put on a great show against our Cdn guys. There are some great pics on
the Kingston Speedway Reunion site if you haven't seen them with a lot of those old greats.
Here's the link:
These were the glory days, no doubt about it.
Thanks again, brought back great memories.
10/7/07 Thank you Rick for the link and your continued interest - Jeff
10/1/2007 THANKS. WE DID GET AHOLD OF CHUCK DUNLAP AND HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
ABOUT YOUR WEBSITE. HE IS NOW AN AVID VIEWER . HE GAVE THAT CAR TO SOMEONE UP
THERE FOR AN ANTIQUE. IT SAT ALONG RT. 17 IN EAST BRANCH FOR 20 ODD YEARS,
PAINTED RED AT THE TIME. HIS DAD LATER ON PUT TOGETHER A TOBIAS CAR TO GO BACK
TO DIRT AND HAD PUT A PINTO BODY ON THAT FOR HIM. THE LAST CHUCK KNEW SOMEONE
IN NEW BERLIN HAD THAT CAR TO MAKE AN ANTIQUE RACER.
Ann & Ed Robbins
10/7/07 Thank you Ann and Ed for the info, hope Chuck enjoys our site. My thought is that the
car you're talking of was last owned by Butch Swarthout of Edmeston, NY, lost track after
9/24/07 I NEED TO STRAIGHTEN OUT WHAT MY WIFE WROTE TO YOU ABOUT THE 14X
CHUCK DUNLAP PICTURE. ATTACHED ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE 14X WHILE UNDER
CONSTRUCTION. DURING BUILDING THE CAR, ED ROBBINS, AVERY AND CHUCK DUNLAP
WERE PARTNERS IN THE DEAL. ED SUPPLIED A HAROLD COPE BUILT 427 FORD ENGINE AND
THE BODY. CHUCK AND AVERY DID THE FRAME AND ROLL CAGE. AVERY DUNLAP WAS THE
TRUE OWNER OF THE CAR IN THE END. CHUCK WAS DRIVING A FORMER WES GERMAN CAR
(THATCHER PLUMBING & HEATING) OWNED BY ED ROBBINS AT MIDDLETOWN AND OTHER
DIRT TRACKS. CAR WAS POWERED BY A FLATHEAD. PICTURE OF 4 WAS TAKEN BY SAM
ROSENBURG AT MIDDLETOWN. OTHER PHOT WAS MAX FRANCISCO #4 AT SHANGRI-LA,
OWEGO, FRED SMITH PHOTO. ED ROBBINS WAS OWNER OF THIS CAR. 34 FORD WAS
FORMER WAYNE HARRIS CAR, I BELIEVE. I BOUGHT IT IN MONTROSE FROM A FRIEND OF
EDDIE RAFFERTY. CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS A TRUCK DRIVER WHO
HAULED NEW CARS AND HAD GOT TIRED OF RACING.
HOPE THIS STRAIGHTEN OUT THE MESS MY WIFE MADE.
SHE IS GOING TO HAVE TO SEND THEM SEPARATELY TO YOU.
9/30/2007 Thanks to both Ed and Anne Robbins for sending these wonderful photographs
and information, I will add them to a section yet to be determined as I haven't figured it
out yet where they all should go..this is good for now. - Jeff
9/20/07 THE #11 WHITE "38 COUPE BELONGS TO A FELLA BY THE NAME OF TONY LAYTON IN
DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA. THE CAR IS A REPLICA OF MODIFIED DRIVEN BY FIREBALL
ROBERTS ON THE BEACH AND SHORT TRACKS IN THE AREA. CAR WAS RUN DOWN THE
BEACH BY SAMMY PACKARD JUST A FEW DAYS PRIOR TO HIS PASSING WHEN HE WAS 84-86
YEARS OF AGE. THE CAR BODY IS KEPT UP, PAINTED AND BODY BY ED ROBBINS IN LAKE
HELEN, FL. THIS CAR IS USED FREQUENTLY AT MEETS IN FLORIDA AND GETS BANGED UP
ONCE IN A WHILE. TONY IS ALSO A FRIEND OF JOEY BOUCHEK. SURPRISED HE HASN'T
TOLD YOU WHO THIS CAR BELONGS TO AS HE VISITS TONY WHEN HE IS IN FLORIDA. TONY
OWNS A CARWASH ON A-1A IN SOUTH DAYTONA. WILL TRY AND SEND YOU SOME ORIGINAL
PHOTOS. EDDIE ROBBINS
9/23/07 Eddie is talking about the photo of the #11 car found under our event reports
'Motorsports Expo 3/9/07-3/11/07 as forwarded by Doug Fetterly. Thanks for the info Eddie
and looking forward to the photos. - Jeff
9/18/07 Dear Racers and Race Fans,
The sons of Mississippi Racing Legend J.D Parker has invited us all to the "Old Timers Racers
Reunion" on Sunday Oct. 7 th. The reunion will be held at Gulf Coast Motor Sports Park about 5
miles north of Gulfport Mississippi. This reunion is for any driver, car owner, crew member,
crew chief and fans of racing back in the 70's, 60's, 50's, 40's, 30's, or earlier. They want
everybody, dirt and asphalt, to come and enjoy the afternoon. All you really need is a lawn chair
and a willingness to fellowship with others. This is a family affair so bring everybody. We have
oak trees at the track and we will be setting up tents. The reunion will begin around 1:00pm.
There will be fried fish, grilled burgers and hot dogs and plenty of fellowship for as long as you
want to stay.
Gerald Hodges from Mobile is writing the book about old time southern racing. Gerald wrote the
book "The Gene Tapia Story". He will be their and wants to talk to anyone willing to share a
story with him about their racing experiences from back then. He wants to put their stories
and/or pictures in the book. This is another way we have to save all the old stories of our
I know this a short notice but please pass this along to all your racing friends. I would love to
see this turn into an annual event. Please check out www.MissChicken.com for directions or
contact Jimmy Parker ( firstname.lastname@example.org ) if you have any question.
I hope to see you all there.
Mississippi Racing History
8/24/07 Jeff, As I mentioned recently I’m sliding from ‘racecar’ mode to ‘ratrod’ mode for a
while. With that in mind, I’d appreciate it if you could send this email to the MASCC. I do have a
‘preference’ as far as a ‘ratrod’-able body goes – a ’36 two door. BUT, at this juncture I’m just
interested in gathering info on anything that is out there. Some of the club members may have
something hanging around that I might be interested in, even if it is not my ‘preferred’ choice.
Coupe or two-door sedans with useable inner door panels, hopefully some floor, etc. I’m shopping
my ‘Cuda (asphalt car from the 70s – can be seen on projects page at
midstateantiquestockcarclub.com ) around for a new home, and I have a solid ’39 Plymouth
coupe that would be a perfect stock car body hanging in the rafters of my barn. So there’s my
hand – and I’m open to conversations about whatever is available. I also sent this to Ed Rohr to
test the MVSCC waters. Thanks.
8/26/07 Also - Pat Hanley is looking for a 1937 Ford Coach or 2 Dr. Sedan Body. Mainly
need the roof, rear quarter panels and trunk. Do NOT need frame, doors, dash, engine,
running gear etc. For antique stock car project. Contact Pat at email@example.com
cell phone 585-305-6070 - or contact us and we'll pass along the information. - Jeff
8/20/07 Absolutely love the site and what you are doing to help preserve the legacy of racing in
upstate NY. Was beyond happy to see the pic of the yellow #101 in the Member Projects section
- I think I saw that car once a week for two years pushed up against the railroad bank off Route
11 at the NY/PA border. Would love to know the history of it - it looks SO familiar! Also, does
anyone remember an old Opel GT bodied modified that sat up on (I believe) East Windsor Road
many years ago? I figure it has to be a pile of rust by now, but it cant hurt to ask!
Aside - Still hoping to make it out to take pics of some of the cars that you and other members
have emailed me about over the past couple of years and see what's going on in the garages -
but between work and kids I have no racing life! <g> Take care and thanks again. - Bakes
8/26/07 I talked with Alan and Richard Tatich this past week and they related that the
101 with the horseshoes was driven by Randy Allen @ 5MP and Penn-Can in the late '60's,
early '70's. Another one solved! And yes Brian, Al drove that wild looking #77 @ 5MP.
Thanks - Jeff
8/19/07 Jeff - I shot my mouth off too early as usual. I did a little research and it turns out
that the pic of Ray Tilley with McCredy's # 33 is more likely 1968 - - Ray was hurt in 1969 in the
Flyin' 5 that was normally driven by Ted Renshaw - - that car is pictured elsewhere on your site
with Ray standing beside it. That pic is only marked as a Ray Tilley picture without a year.
Sorry for the confusion. I just got back from Williams Grove Oldtimers and checked with a
couple of people and documented it thru "Stars and Cars" Yearbooks which Lloyd King published
for a long time. Sorry to cause any confusion. The story about Harry, Ray, and the model need
no correction. Thanks!
8/13/07 Great Website - - I have to check in every so often to see what's new. Being an old
Reading and Williams Grove fan I only got to see the NY drivers at the big races or early in the
season - - but all this NY history is wonderful!
The #33 was Dave McCredy's car and wrenched by Fred DeCarr. Billy Wimble usually drove it
but Dave also took an extra car (back up I guess) to Langhorne. Dutch Hoag won there in 1963
in one of Dave's cars renumbered to #13.
The pic is Ray Tilley. I'm not sure of the year, but Ray's career ended at Langhorne in 1970
when he backed it into the fence and suffered serious head and neck injuries. Ray only drove a
couple of times after that and gave it up for the sake of his family.
We spent a few minutes with Ray a couple of years ago at Williams Gove Oldtimers Convention.
He had just been inducted in to the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame at Knoxville. It was really
great to meet him and chat for a bit.
My good buddy, Harry McCaughey, presented Ray with a model of his brother's (Ron) car from
Silver Springs back in the 1950s. Ron had just passed away and Harry presented Ray (who
wanted to buy it) the model with the stipulation that Ray donate whatever he thought the model
was worth to the WGOT building fund (for the museum). Class acts by all involved!
Thanks for keeping the Website going and keeping the memories alive.
Best Regards -
Thanks Jim for the information and your interest, keep checking back as I'll keep adding
as I go. - Jeff
8/7/07 Jeff, On the weekend of 13/14 october there is an historic FORD only meet scheduled
at Winton. Sadly, I’ll be competing in the Australian ‘Colt Cup’ (a 2 day handgun comp) on this
weekend. I’ll try to get some photos through channels, but if not ……. Are there any other
Aussies with a camera out there? Regards, Ian.
8/6/07 Although still in the
planning stages, we are organizing a Northeast Modified racers reunion. It is scheduled at New
Smyrna Speedway on the day of the Richie Evans Memorial race in February during
Speedweeks '08. I'm hoping that your web-site could help us in contacting racers that started
their careers at LEAST 25 years ago so we can send them an invitation and details about this
event. Asphalt or Dirt racers are welcome, and of course, all fans of any age or background. This
is going to be a free event for both drivers and fans. It's all about having some fun, and seeing
some people that we haven't seen in many years.
We are also inviting all owners of restored or classic Modifieds to attend, for display and possibly
a few laps on the speedway during intermission.
We will be developing a web-site and a flier that gives all the details as soon as we have more
information to give.
If you could, please post, or pass on, my e-mail or phone number to anyone that may be
interested in attending this event.
Thank You for any help you may be able to provide!
Jerry Binner, 407-702-3311, or firstname.lastname@example.org
7/14/07 Jeff, I certainly enjoyed your show, you know how I love the old cars. Great to see Ed
Rafferty take a couple of laps in the P-13. I think if he lined up at the back of the pack, he still
could give you guys a run for your money. Ed is a great guy and one of my childhood heroes.
Thanks for coming down, I know I certainly enjoyed your visit. BTW, I'm hoping to be getting a
website up and running in the next month or so. When I do, would it be possible to set up a link
with your site?
Best wishes to you, TED
Ted, Absolutely, we'd be happy to link to your site. Thanks for the photo's and the great
time at Penn Can, we all enjoyed ourselves. - Jeff
7/9/07 Please find attached a couple of pictures of one of my fathers cars that ran at Shangri-
La. The #19 coach was owned by John Benjamin and driven by Wayne Reynolds, I would love to
see these posted on the site. Also I've looking for a Coach body to build a replica of this car any
help for resources would be greatly appreciated. I really enjoyed the site people shouldn't forget
the history of the Mods. I will send more pictures as I get them scanned in.
222 Riggs Ave.
Portland, TN 37148
Doug - thanks for the pictures - check out our 'Odds & Ends' section - Fred Smith Photo's -
you'll see the pictures under Wayne Reynolds, thanks - Jeff
7/7/07 I checked out your site and it sent tingles up and down my spine. You folks have
something SO special that it can't be put into words but I'll try.
I can just feel the History and the love you have for these ol' cars and the Men that drove them.
I too feel the same way. These cars helped build our country. They hauled familys around
before, during and after the great war and the People that drove them were the generation that
saved the world. While I do love racing, for me it's every bit as much about honoring that
generation that keeps me doing all I can, to see that this NEVER dies. I know you feel the same
way because I read your bio. I obviously never met Bob Hayslet but I feel that I know him well. I
lost my darling Father in 2004 at the age of 91 and his (and Bob's) generation were different
than anything we see today. Unlike today, a man's word meant something. It had to. People
counted on one another and could depend on each other.
Today it's all me,me,me. I know you guys are going thru some hard times with the club but hang
in there. We got cancelled this Sat. and I had set up a Supermodified exibition as we are trying
to get those ol' warriors goin' again. I had to call everybody, mend fences (read kiss @ss.lol) and
hope we can get 'em back next week. For those of us who serve it goes with the territory. Lots of
hours but the rewards are there. Every time a little Boy or Girl, eyes wide open climbs in my
Jalopy and plays Race Car Driver for the first time it's worth it. We are showing yet another
generation something they would never see if it wasn't for us. What more do ya need...........
Hope you have a blast at the Fair and We'll catch ya soon.......Ken Bonema
6/13/07 Jeff, Awesome article on Cliff Kotary. Cliff Kotary is certainly one of the all time great
Upstate NY modified racing veteran's. I am happy I had the pleasure to see him race back in
the 60's. I certainly will never forget Cliff at the Syracuse mile, man oh man he could get that
modified around there in a hurry. I hope he is doing well these days.
I will be heading to Oswego, NY on 18 July and I have already told Ed Rohr I want to see a
Midstate event if possible, which I am a member of. I will be at Oswego Speedway on 21 July for
the $10,000 to win supermodified race. I am also an auto racing photographer, and if there is
anyway I can take a few photos of some of the modifieds up that way, please let me know. I also
want to revisit the DIRT Modified Hall of Fame in Weedsport. Lou "The Monk" Lazzaro was also
another one of my favorite Upstate NY modified drivers.
Have a good day...see you at the races,
Rich Arnold, Missouri
Rich - thanks, I'm pleased you liked the article and yes, Cliff is doing well, thanks for your
interest. - Jeff
6/10/07 Hello, My name is Nick Houmard and I was just doing some reading in your tech
section about flathead ignition setups, specifically the dual coil setup. I need some information
on how to setup a dual coil system on my flathead ford v-8, using the 8BA distributor. I've been
told this modification is possible, and as a fabricator, I'd like to try this on my engine. However I
cannot find anyone that has much information on this. Any information or contacts to someone
with this info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Nick Houmard from Ohio
Nick - I've seen an article on this in an old hot rod magazine, if i can find it I'll post it
under 'Flat -Tech' for you. - Jeff
5/26/07 Back in the early 1960's @ a dirt track in Alta, Ia. a guy by the name of Bill Bradstreet
ran a late 30's or early 40's Ford coupe with a flathead V-8. This thing turned lap times that
were not far off the times that they're turning today. A buddy of mine & I were running a '40
Ford Coupe with a 0.127" over bore & a full race Isky cam & in the feature our car would
usually be lapped by Bradstreet. We were told that he was running a cam that allowed 2
cylinders to fire @ the same time (it was refferred to as a crossfire V-8). Before a race they
would have the car running on jack-stands & it would shake the ground. Have you ever heard
of this set-up & if so could you give me some input. In the same era, a family by the name of
Tilton was running a Hudson flathead 6 cyl. @ a dirt track in Jackson, MN. & it was said that
they were running the engine in reverse rotation to counteract the engine torque. Have you
ever heard of this set-up? I know that this probably sounds crazy, but I thought it might create
Doug - check out our 'Flat-Tech' section under flathead crankshafts for some info on
crossfires, they raced them in New York too. - Jeff
5/23/07 Does any one have any parts for a quick change( old Franklyn) Banjo type rear end or
any gears for the stock one that is in the high fours or low fives? Thank you for the help. Bob
5/5/07 Jeff, Just letting you know that Pete and Graham's race car is cooling ok now. We tried
5/8 restrictors which helped a little,then over a beer in their shed we compared truck vs car
water pumps and ground off every second fin on the p/c pumps. An engine oil cooler and some
thermo wrap tape over the hpc coated headers together with less exhaust restriction and it's a
happy thing. Yesterday at Winton raceway they could go out and run 20 laps on a 2 mile course
with it running at 90c (about 195f). Pull into the pits, wait 5 mins and take the radiator cap off
without loss of coolant. I've been nagging them for some photos via email, so as soon as I get
some I'll foreward them. Thanks again for your help. Ian Riordan, Victoria, Australia
5/2/07 I previously identified Jack Steenburg as the mystery photo as I helped him out way
back then. I also would like to add that Jack was one of the nicest, most fun loving guys I ever
had the pleasure of knowing. Jim Ryan, Redondo Beach, Ca.
4/28/07 Hello, My name is Dave Miller.I would like to know if anyone has any thing on the
following? John Bacon of Ogdensburg, N.Y. was an owner/builder of a stock car,with the #s GM-
6 and C-38, and I think the driver was Buck Holiday. Thanks for your help. Love your site. Dave
4/9/07 HI JEFF....THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO THE PICTURE YOU POSTED ON 4/8/07 OF
BRUCE FLEISCHMAN PULLING INTO THE PITS AT WATERLOO. THIS CAR WAS OWNED BY
JACK BENTLEY AND RACED PRIMARILY AT LANCASTER IN 1962 TAKING DOWN ELEVEN
FEATURE WINS. IT IS ACTUALLY THE #38 CAR THAT YOU HAVE POSTED ON THE NYS FAIR
PAGE THAT MY DAD IS STANDING NEXT TO IN 1961. BRUCE FLEISCHMAN RACED IT WITH
THE NUMBER 99X......I BELIEVE IT WAS SOLD TO TOM LEESON OF ROCHESTER AFTER THE
1962 SEASON. THE #38 THAT WAS DESTROYED AT SYRACUSE IN 1963 FOLLOWED THE 99X.
THANKS FOR POSTING THE PICTURES....IT WAS PRETTY COOL!!! I CALLED MY FATHER IN
FLORIDA AND HE FINALLY GOT TO SEE THEM WHEN HE GOT TO HIS FRIENDS SHOP IN
BOYTON BEACH. HIS FRIEND JON WENT BONKERS WHEN HE DISCOVERED YOUR SITE!!!!!
THANKS AGAIN AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PRESERVING THE MEMORIES.....OH BY THE
WAY THERE ARE SOME SHOTS OF THE #38 RACING AT THE FAIR IN 1961 IN THE VIDEO....THE
CAR WAS NUMBERED #138 AND WAS DRIVEN BY KEN MEAHL UNDER THE ALIAS OF KEN
OWEN....IN THE SYRACUSE SCRAPBOOK PUBLICATION HE IS LISTED AS KEN OWEN AND I
BELIEVE HE FINISHED THIRD....THANKS BILL BENTLEY
4/8/07 Jeff----Your doing a great job allowing many to re-live what racing was many moons ago--
I haven't been around to the tracks in several years now--haven't read a Gater in years---I just
keep up with whats happening via the net---and do a little sim racing online every once in
awhile---keep up the good work---we'll keep checking the site--Hey--do you remember that time
at Ransomville when Brian and Al Derouin made it 3 wide with you in the middle in 3 and 4--I
watched that tape awhile back and can still remember some of your comments after that race---
lol-----------------tell your dad hello----------------Bill Fish
Thanks Bill, I do remember that night at Ransomville, I don't recall my exact comments
afterward but I assume they were colorful. Thanks for your interest in the site.
4/6/07 G'day, my name is Ian Riordan and I live in the hills of northeast Victoria Australia. A
friend and his father have built a flathead powered 'special' to run in historic circuit events
here (road courses). It is similar in style to a pre war grand prix or indy car and uses a hand
made steel chassis and aluminium single seat body.
The drive line comprises a 304 ci 24 stud with Edelbrock heads and intake, 3 stromberg 48s, a
mallory unilite crab (with a hidden msd 6al), 4,3/16 scat crank, 200 ford l6 rods and 2l nissan
pistons. This runs through a 4 speed falcon gearbox to a 3.78 47 Ford rear converted to open
driveshaft. It pulls like a train and today (good friday) we took it to Winton raceway (an hour
south of us and 3 hours north of Melbourne) for a 'track day' (test and tune). We've dialled in the
suspension (split wishbone), steering and fuel curve, but it is boiling like a kettle after 4 x 2
mile laps.It has stock replacement pumps with cast iron impellers, a 4 row rad of the same
width as stock and a stock dia spun alloy crank pulley. The heads are centre outlet with an
inline thermostat in each top hose and approx 8.8:1 compression. We pulled the thermostats
and it boiled quicker, so we put it on the trailer rather than hurt it.
As the coolant flow was way too fast with the t/stats out we figured a couple of restrictors in
the top hoses might help. Any thoughts? This is the first experience any of us have had with
sidevalve Fords so it's a learning curve for all of us. I know it's a big bore, but many 255 inch
F600s pulled 20 tons of timber out of the bush here in the 50s.
Thanks for your time, I hope some old bloke may be able to help us and have a great easter.
4/7/07 Reply sent to Ian - I believe he needs to slow down the water and get the exhaust out
more efficiently. Welcome to the wonderful world of Flatheads Ian, they're a challenge. Ian
has promised to send pictures in the future.
3/25/06 Thank you for setting up this wonderful site. I can, and will, spend hours on it.
I discovered your site while doing research on the Norden. Thank you for the information
Growing up in the 50s and 60s on the circle tracks of southwest Chicago, including the famous
high bank asphalt 1/4 mile oval at Mazon, IL (Grundy County Fairgrounds) where midgets and
stocks ran regularly, I am old enough to remember the V860s, the Offenhausers, and the
introduction of the Chevy II and Falcon 6s into the midget circuit. I drove my first circle track
car in '59 at age 11, and was racing regularly beginning in '60. The adults accepted me into
their ranks. Unfortunately I had a house fire in 1975 and all photos were lost.
I have forwarded your site address to several friends.
Thanks again for kindling the memories. Ray Vaira
3/12/07 Jeff what a great job you have done thanks, Rusty Carpenter
Thank you Rusty, I'd also like to thank all who have contributed to our site.
3/1/07 I was just wondering what it takes to become a member. My dad, Wayne Harris drove
the number 55 ford at Penn Can in the 50's and 60's, and my name is Wes Harris I drove the
number 55x at Penn Can in the 70's and 80's. We have been looking for a project car to restore
but they are not easy to find. John Ross lives just a few miles from both my dad and I. I noticed
that he has some nicely restored cars, but I have been told they are not for sale. Also my dad is
good friends with Jimmy Florence who drove a stock car that was powered at one time by the
flat head ford my dad built. If anyone has or knows were their may be a car or possibly more
available for restoration feel free to contact me at email@example.com. Thank you for your time
2/16/07 Found these pics in an old shoe box I had as a kid. My Dad worked on Glenn Scott's #
175 and visited tracks such as 5MP, Glen Aubrey, Penn Can (Susquehanna) Morris Fairgrounds
and Dryden. My first race ever won by Jim Perkins 10 Pins jr 1958. Great site, keep the photo's
coming. Gary Aldrich
1/23/07 I Checked out the slide show and its AWESOME!!!!!! You and Nikki must have put in a
ton of time. Great job. Sincerely, Pat Hanley
1/22/07 Jeff, The resemblance is close and of course Gordy ran the #92, whats even more
interesting is I have an old pic of Gordys 92 from I think an old Gater I would say from around
1973 and Gordy was running whats looks to be a Corvair body and the resemblance in chassis to
the posted pic is real close. Thought by chance that this was the old coupe reskinned. The
interesting thing for me is that I am from Ontario Canada and race chased as a kid with my
brother in upstate New York, alot of my recollection is not from actually seeing these great
names race, but if there was a racing paper we had a subscription, so although we didn't see all
the great ones, those papers were our connection. We had saved them all, however a little water
in my parents house basement sort of did them in. So when I see your posts its put the memory
in gear and see what you can up with.
You folks are to be commended for your restorations and the site is awesome, I check it
regularly and have enjoyed all the great old pics, man the young looking faces is unbelievable.
Something that may interest you, heres a link to a Cdn gentleman up in Thunder Bay who like
you folks believes in the REmember, Restore, Race thought process. Sometimes it's a little slow
to load but it's well worth the wait:
What he got sitting in the yard warms the heart of any vintage race fan.I am trying to talk my
wife into a drive up to Thunder Bay but we are in the Toronto area which makes that trip about
two days, time will tell.
Thanks again for all the effort into this site, I have really enjoyed it.
Thank you Rick- we've added the link to Russ's site on our Links page. Not sure if the #92
on the 'Name that Photo' page this week is Gordy Isham or not, the back of the pic says
Dave Thompson @ Langhorne.
My name is Nancy Owen, and my dad built Shangri-la. Just wanted to say thank you I really
enjoy seeing all the old pictures.
The second one 48 says Bert Owen, that is wrong, Bert Owen motors was the sponsor, Harold
Owen is the driver Bert was his father and they had a shop in Endicott.
Keep up the good work
If you look in back ground you will see original grandstands.
12/12/2006 Jeff; Finding your web site was like finding a pot of gold, I love the old photos of the
cars from Waterloo, I remember going there when my parents went camping at Cayuga Lake at
Seneca Falls NY, so you know where I went on Saturday night. I'll never forget my the first time
I took my girlfriend who now is my wife for 43 years to Waterloo I said you won't believe how fast
these cars go here! Sporting our new matching sport shirts I pulled her by the arm come-on
honey there starting we rushed up the grandstand stairs only to get clobbered with a face full of
mud, haha wasn't to funny at the time but every time it comes up we start to laugh. Well
enough off that Jeff are there any web sights that have any history of Monroe County, in
Rochester. UP.SO. great article on Larry Nye
12/10/06 Does anyone have any old movies from the Southern Tier that can be put on video
tape? If so could I borrow them?
12/9/06 I love the old photos on your website! It sure brings back the memories of the racers
who thrilled me as a child. Because of their sacrifices and exploits I knew that one day I'd
become a race car driver too. Many of the cars & drivers are gone but they live on in the hearts
and minds of those who saw them. I even saw a photo of the car that was to become my first
race car later in it's life. Wish I had kept that old Pete Cordes coupe. It would be great if you
would post a Chemung Speedrome photo section for those old timers from that area.
Thanks for the Memories!
Dale Welty #123
From the Webmaster: if anyone knows where we can locate a set of radius tappet lifters -
please let us know through the Contact Us page. See post below. Thank you
12/7/06 Hello, I'm looking for a set of lifters for the 404, do you have or know of any, I have
stuff to trade or I will buy out rite. PLEASE let me know
THANKS Will Lash
11/29/06 I love all of the photos & stories that you and your wife have added to the site - it's
sensational. Thanks for your efforts.
11/28/06 The website is GREAT. It's nice that we can all share our photos of that awesome
time when modifieds were King.
Sincerely, Pat Hanley
10/22/06 Your link was added to my site. I've enjoyed looking through the vintage shots
especially those of Fred Smith and John Grady!! I'd appreciate it if you could add my site to your
links. It's NYRaceZone.com Thanks, Mark Southcott
10/19/06 Jeff: Back in the mid 1960's Jack Bentley owned a 1934 Ford Flathead race car which
was painted red & white & sported the number 38. He raced it at the Fair every year with
Kenny Meahl driving in hopes of beating Cliff Kotary. Do you have access to any photos of that
car & driver, or any other information. I remember the car fondly and remember when Kenny
flipped it so violently at the Fair. Any help would be sincerely appreciated. Thank You.
09/21/06 I sure enjoy reading flathead info on your great website. I am not a stock car racer
but I do have a couple flatheads, building one now. In your article on camshafts I see you
mentioned the Giovannoni 999 cam. Do you know of anyone that has the specs or can grind a
999 cam? I put a 999 cam in a flathead about 45 yrs. ago and it sure brought it to life. It was
the best cam (I think) for drag racing back then.
08/19/06 Jeff & Nikki Ackerman
You folks are just great! It was my pleasure to meet you all Saturday night, Aug. 12, 2006, at
Black Rock Speedway, Dundee, NY. What a warm and welcoming group of people you all are.
We had a great time, sons Bob and Scott and myself. In the stands were Mrs. Rip, my better
half, Mrs. Kelli Rip, Scott's better half and his two teenagers, Emili and Christopher. "Rip" Jr's
family was returning from a trip South and missed this great day.
"Rip" is new to racing this year. His first time on the track was on May 6th 2006. Chemung
Speedrome had "open practice" day. The "SLANT 6" had some issues that day but he fixed them
up. Made some repairs, changes and corrections. And it sure looks good. Advice, parts, tires
and help came from many drivers, owners and others in the racing game. At Black Rock we
had a great evening, Bob drove his best and had his most enjoyment, yet. His car just needs a
little more tweaking and a little more .....oomph!
Joyce (Mrs. Rip) and I were next door neighbors to Don Moyer, owner and Jack Soper, driver of
the #48 back in...about 1959-60. Anybody remember them? In 1970 I was with T.K. McLean,
owner (we married sisters) and Jeff Bodine his driver, at ShangriLa, Owego, NY.
Folks, Bob Ripley and his SLANT 6 has sure brought back some great memories to Mom and
Dad. We love you, all. Thanks again. We look forward to the next time we meet.
JEFF & NIKKI, your work on this site is so outstandingly, Grrreeeeeaaaaat!!!
Bob & Joyce Ripley Sr.
07/20/06 I have a bunch of old pictures of Max Francisco, Georgie Lewis, Pat Patterson,
Ed Robbins, Chuck Corey and different onces that have driven my cars. Most of them are
Fred Smith photos. If you would want to post them on the website, let me know and I will email
some to you. Currently a member of the Auto Racing Legends in Daytona Beach. I do the paint
and body work on many of these stock cars and midgets and sprint cars. Just finished painting
a replica car 38 Ford ran at Daytona Beach, driven by Fireball Roberts.
Enjoyed looking at all the old pictures, sure brings back memories.
07/20/06 Nikki & Jeff - you did an amazing job on your website. It is so amazing that I
am speechless about the work you must have put into it. Great job.
07/07/06 I have a racing website, www.BroncosPitstop.com
I am the editor of the "The Race Tracker", the Official Publication of the Red Cedar
Speedway, www.redcedarracing.com in Menomonie, Wisconsin. I am always seeking photos and
stories for my site, so those of you that would like, send me some info about you, your car, your
experiences. I love the Midstate Antique Stock Car Club website!
Jim BRONCO Gorecki
The CJ3 Racing Group
Cedar Falls, WI
Thank you so much.....you made my husbands racing year... the Chuck Akulis car was amazing
and having him drive it around the track was perfect... hopefully there will be pictures in the
Gator... I am so happy you let Patty know.. The Jack Johnson was great too, and we hope the
pole barn car will be left alone... it was so interesting...we will be looking for old race cars.
06/23/06 Jeff - Seriously great pics on the website - some of those "projects" bring back a LOT
of memories!! Wanted to get out and meet up to take some shots for the old car pages I've been
trying to get started but between the house (new furnace and AC as well as a bunch of other
stuff) and kids, I haven't even been to a track yet this year! Hopefully should be out & about by
mid - July. Have fun at the tracks!!
06/03/06 Hey Jeff, COOL! Onto it!
05/27/06 Jeff, All I can say is that you & Nikki are to be congratulated on such a great site.
I hadn't been into Otto's site lately & when I checked this morning there you were. It was punch
you in and here 2 hours later, still enjoying. I specially enjoyed the article you had on Willie
Wust, he was one of the best and as you stated always willing to help someone. We moved away
from the area in '71 when I went to work for Penn State Univ. although we do get back in the
area on occasion, have missed the old area, but now after viewing your site I find myself
thinking I really missed more than I thought. It's been very enjoyable seeing and talking with
you & your Dad at the Old Timers get-together, think I have only missed a couple of them and
looking forward to attending a few more. In meantime a big thanks for the great job you have
done and a special Thanks for bringing back a lot of good memories.
Gene & Elaine Johnson
Findley Lake, NY
05/26/06 Call it coincidence or just the right vibes. I spent most of yesterday morning taking
i your website Ack (all of it actually). Otto's website, which I read every week, led me there.
Both you & Nikki have done a fantastic job with the site. I couldn't believe that the Gross's
appeared under your history section - thanks. My other comment regarding the history section
is WOW - talk about a turbocharged synopsis of the antique (vintage) racing club. Let's just say
it was an exciting read (reminds me a little of Barefoot Bob's book in Candor). I also enjoyed the
"Flattech" section as well.
I think a section on car set-ups or what was done to set up the car would also be novel &
interesting to all. Ricky Gross
05/21/06 Great job guys, the club is on a roll now. This is going to be a great year.
Richard & Sharon Parry
05/19/06 Outstanding Site! As always you come up a winner. I had the 1963 State Fair
trophy refinished. Dad and I are looking forward to getting down and taking pictures
with the #90. Give me a call when you get time as I always enjoy our talks. If I
can be of assistance in anyway give me a call. Give our Best Regards to your family.
Roy & Cliff Kotary
05/19/06 From: webmaster@midstateantiqustockcarclub
We'd like to thank all of you who either contributed or viewed our website & for all of
the wonderful responses that we have received. We plan to continue to expand the
website for your enjoyment as well as ours. Thanks again. MASCC Webmaster
05/19/06 Jeff, yourself and Nikki are doing more than anyone to preserve the history of
racing in Midstate New York. This website is by far one of the best. What a place to
get lost in the sport for a few hours every now and then. Even Belvedere is a fan.
Kevin Christopher & Maise
05/19/06 It's hard to imagine the time and effort that has gone into the creation of this
website. It certainly has been a labor of love. I know this site will continue to grow
as more people view it and send in information that will promote the history of stock
car racing. Jeff and Nikki have done an outstanding job and can be very proud of this
accomplishment. Congratulations! Richard & Susan Ackerman
05/17/06 This website is much more than I expected. That old photo of Rollie in Popeye's old
99 sure brought back sweet memories of Maplegrove. I try to attend all the
Midstate shows that I can. Sandy & I appreciate all the hard work in this effort.
Thanks, racers, for your hard work to maintain those "good old days".
05/17/06 To sum it all up in one word PHENOMENAL!!! You have made great efforts in your
time & talents to keep the heritage of stock cars & stock car racing at peoples
fingertips. It is a classy website! Many that have raced before you would be so proud
& honored today to see their victories of yesteryear on display. We just LOVE all the
pictures! Thanks so much. Gotta love that Belvedere too. It wouldn't be the same
without him drooling all over these pages. C & E Vigil
05/17/06 The web page is great....It makes it easy for family that is far away from home
keep track of what's going on in the club...Keep up the great job. From a daughter far away
from home. Melissa
05/17/06 Jeff, the site looks great, nice job on it. Can't wait to see you guys at the Can in
June Best Wishes, Tedracefan
05/17/06 As a follower of the antiquers this is great... I printed the schedule so that we are
on top of your events. Thank you for all your hard work. Can't wait to see a Chuck Akulis
05/16/06 Great site, better cars.
After following Jeff's articles over the years and seeing the face of racing change, as I
knew it, I've come to appreciate these cars and those who work to save history.
Racings past is worth saving. - Brian Lavoie
05/16/06 Outstanding job! Alan T.
05/16/06 Great job on the website. P. Teeple
05/15/06 Great Job Jeff & Nikki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all your HARD work...........L. Witter
05/15/06 Great job you two, it looks great. It's just the beginning of something that will be around for a long
05/15/06 Whew! I spent half the day going through the website! EXTREMELY NICE
JOB, boat uh ya's! I can not image the time it took. Thanks for your efforts. Your
dedication to this endeavor is unmatched by anyone that I know of & it sure sows. You should
be deservedly proud. G. Wood